-Why, when the money was just sitting in the bank anyway?? Do you know, u/samarkandy? He didnt remember, it was so long ago, about twenty-five years. (Steve Thomas in reference to Bill), Jessie McReynolds (the son): He had done two and a half years in an Arizona prison for conspiracy, aggravated robbery and kidnapping and had no corroborated alibi for Christmas night 1996. "She [the California woman] had no direct knowledge of anything that may have occurred the night JonBent died," Police Chief Mark Beckner told the Denver Post. McReynolds got angry, and that only fed the paranoia of the DAs people. They were never charged as suspects in the murder. But they also know that he couldn't have written the note and they know that neither one of them wrote it or did anything wrong because they were together the entire time. I was amazed. She discusses her father's legacy of goodness while talking about how the JonBenet His wife, Janet McReynolds, was also reportedly present at the party. Other suspects included neighbor Bill McReynolds, a local Santa Claus who visited the Ramseys a few days before the girls death. They know someone outside the family has murdered their daughter, but they know no one will believe they're all innocent, so in order to protect Burke and themselves they call the police and report the kidnapping in the hopes that if they play along, the real killer will be caught eventually. All because they thought Burke might be arrested for eating pineapple with JonBenet? And another creepy coincidence that raised investigators' suspicions was a play written by McReynolds's wife Janet about a girl who was sexually assaulted, then murdered in her basement. JOHN RAMSEY: . We have some letters from him. His best finish came in the 2020 season opener at Daytona a runner-up finish, which was also his first top five in the series. Depends who you ask. The McReynolds supposedly refused a search of their house and the police never pursued a search warrant. Can I ask you Ivy, did you live through the whole JonBenet murder saga as an adult while it was unfolding? Larry McReynolds, who is a NASCAR on FOX analyst and a two-time Daytona 500 winning- crew chief, congratulated his daughter and to-be son-in-law on this occasion. In early 1990s the Ramseys spent $700,000 just to build the third story master suite onto their mansion! (Thomas), Jesse McReynolds, now thirty-eight, had botched a $113 gas station robbery in Arizona during which he forced the clerk to move from Point A to Point B. Search the history of over 778 billion There's a reason people who don't really know the details of this case will 90% of the time say they think the parents are guilty of 'something'. About a month out from the start of the 2021 NASCAR season, Camping World Truck Series driver Jordan Anderson has some big news. (BPD Report #1-1149. Because almost none of it is supported by anything - there is nothing to imply that McReynolds was interested in snuff movies, could have hired a killer, that the killer recorded anything, etc. In A Mother Gone Bad: The Hidden Confession of JonBent's Killer, psychologist Andrew G. Hodgesargues that one possibility in the murder is that Patsy Ramsey caught her husband molesting JonBenet, and hit her in a fit of rage. Patsy finds the ransom note hours later. In 1977, Janet gave a local paper an interview and said "I've always been interested in the way victims frequently seem to seek their own death, or to deliberately choose their own murderer. In a very special episode of Listen Carefully, Sam and Lindsey welcome their first guest, Jill McReynolds, daughter of suspect Bill McReynolds. An Associated Press report from March 1997 stated that McReynolds and his wife, Janet, were initially questioned less than six weeks after the murder. When you do though, the intruder theory makes the most sense and has the better scientific evidence. A federal court ruled that it was unlikely that Patsy wrote the note and cited six certified handwriting experts. Besides her parents, suspicion has been cast on the child sex offender Gary Oliva, the housekeeper Linda Hoffman, an electrician named Michael Helgoth and even the town Santa Bill McReynolds. I would love to know why his red Santa suit was never taken in and fibers from it never compared to the red fibers found on JonBenets shirt and on the garotte. Romper attempted to reach out to original representatives for the McReynolds, but was unsuccessful. She won 5 major contests before her tragic murder at the age of 6. No suspects were ever found in the case, but both children were found. JonBent had led McReynolds by the hand on a tour of the house during the 1995 Christmas party, including her bedroom and the basement to see where the Christmas trees were kept, and had given him a vial of glittery stardust to sprinkle in his beard. So how could there be dna from this accomplice? Too convoluted. When I die, I'm going to be cremated. I was in my 20s when she was murdered and am strongly IDI. We're going to go up behind the cabin here and have it blow away in the wind." They then staged the kidnapping and murder scene together to cover the whole thing up. "Her murder was harder on me than my operation. The world also blames the Ramsey's for the murder, Santa Bill has been cleared so many time and youre still dragging his name through the mud. No Family and friends were of the Ramseys were also allowed in and out of the house before the initial investigation was completed. According to The Daily Camera, the McReynolds' middle daughter, 9-years-old at the time, was abducted on December 26, 1974, and witnessed the sexual molestation of her friend. No suspects were ever found in the case, but both children were found. She made a profound change in me. (BPD Report # 1-645. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. Following the success of shows recounting murder cases and trials like, The People v. O.J Simpson, and Making A Murderer, both CBS and Lifetime are bringing JonBent's story to TV this year. Another was Michael Helgoth, an electrician who worked at a nearby auto salvage yard. Also, using the words of one of the handwriting experts, it's extremely unlikely for a random killer to have a handwriting so uniquely similar to Patsy's. (Thomas), Spent two and a half years in an Arizona prison for conspiracy, aggravated robbery and kidnapping and had no corroborated alibi for Christmas night 1996. CBS will air a six-hour, three-part documentary series called The Case of: JonBent Ramsey in September, The New York Times reported. The victim in the story later dies in a hospital. She was abused, tortured, and finally killed. According to a 1999 New York Post article, McReynolds was a retired journalism professor and a close friend of the Ramseys. According to the Daily Camera, the woman provided authorities with a list of "specific names of individuals who [were] witnesses in the killing of JonBent as well as ongoing sexual and physical [abusers] of other children.". I am not accusing anyone in particular, just pointing out the multiple bizarre similarities and things that give me pause. Why not just take some photos of her and be gone. Wait, I meant, this is complete bullshit. Patsy Ramsey (JonBenets mom) finds a ransom note for her 6-year-old daughter on the stairs inside of her house. Even more suspicious, McReynolds's middle daughter and her friend had been abducted 22 years prior to JonBent's death to the day. When I'm not writing, reading, or lost in the vortex that is the Internet, I can usually be found stuffing my face with food and obsessing over the nearest dog. There were other similarities about McReynolds' play and the Ramsey murder that spiked investigators' interest. And while living in Nederland, near Boulder, he had some other scrapes with the law. Another mother also stated to BPD investigators that JonBent had told a playmate about a Secret Santa. A. James Kolar, who led the case investigation for the Boulder DAs office for nine months, believes its unlikely the girl was killed by an intruder. Gosage took the good news back to the house, but Janet McReynolds told him, Stay out of our lives. The embarrassed cops got into their cars, and the official convoy slunk back down the mountain. Why did he even write it in the house? JonBent Ramsey was 6 years old when she was murdered in her Boulder, CO home on Christmas night 1996. They parked at a gas station down the road and sent my old partner, Detective Ron Gosage, up to talk because he was the only one with whom McReynolds would speak. Many sleuths believe that Helgoth had heard he was a suspect in the case, with a popular theory believing that it was his footprint at the crime scene. And while living in Nederland, near Boulder, he had some other scrapes with the law. Can everyone else read it or am I the only one with eyes painted on. The story of the girls brutal murder is a hot topic of discussion as her killer was never brought to justice. DNA has since cleared Helgoth of any involvement. Letting them go was a big mistake, as they soon layered up and did not get to formally interview them again until May of 1997, five months after their daughter was murdered., The case was then passed to the DAs office in 2002 after the Ramseys said they had no confidence in the police.. Why not bring it with him? on July 8, 2020, Longmont Police Department records on the December 26, 1974 kidnapping of Jill McReynolds (daughter of JonBenet Ramsey murder suspect "Santa" Bill McReynolds) and her friend by an unidentified pedophile, There are no reviews yet. The case has fascinated the nation for the past 20 years, but it remains unsolved. Because they were bombarded by a RDI media circus and it made them biased against the parents innocence before they even knew the basic facts of the case. McReynolds played Santa Claus at a Christmas party at the Ramsey house a few nights before JonBent was killed. A window in the basement was broken and an unidentified footprint was found at the scene. All rights reserved. Bill and Janet McReynolds say the only significance of their daughter's abduction to the Ramsey case, regardless of the dates, is that it underscores the compassion they feel for John and Patsy Ramsey. Kolar scoured through lab and police reports, witness statements and other information when he took over the case. How can it be used to clear suspects if you don't think the killer left the DNA to begin with? I don't really have other children that I have this special relationship with not even my own children or my own grandchildren". McReynoldss own daughter had been kidnapped 22 years before. To see all content on The Sun, please use the Site Map. DNA has since cleared Helgoth of any involvement. Karr eventually came out as a transgender woman in 2010. I lived through the he saga as an adult and I know several people that believe the Intruder theory. acting incredibly suspiciously around the time of the murder, I wonder what it would be like to crack a human skull, You will receive a special gift after Christmas, a fictionalized account of the 1965 torture and murder of Sylvia Likens in Indiana, it's also not the first time that a murder has been blamed on an owl, Your Privacy Choices: Opt Out of Sale/Targeted Ads. JonBent Ramsey was 6 years old when she was murdered in her Boulder, CO home on Christmas night 1996. I thought there was no dna found under her fingertips? It's really blurry even when it's enlarged. Why wouldnt he hand it over at the storage unit versus going back to the house? John and other family members were cleared of suspicion through a handwriting test, but police couldnt conclusively determine if Patsy wrote the letter. Those speculated to be involved range from Santa Claus to Katy Perry. They realize that someone is playing a sick game with them. Their daughter's ordeal "makes you sensitive to the horror" of JonBenet's murder, Janet McReynolds said. John Mark Karr confessed to murdering JonBent in 2006. However, it was revealed two weeks later that his DNA did not match the evidence found on JonBents clothing and he was released. JonBenet remembering that Santa is suppose to visit her wakes up sometime after midnight. The Boulder Police Department was hit with a lot of criticism due to their handling of the investigation. To inquire about a licence to reproduce material, visit our Syndication site. In his book Presumed Guilty: An Investigation Into the JonBent Ramsey Case, the Media, and the Culture of Pornography, journalist Stephen Singular argues that the police were so focused on pinning the murder to the Ramseysthat they neglected to consider the possibility that JonBent was abducted for child pornography. And they didn't just lie that morning. The Ramseys refused to cooperate with police. Heres How to Shop for Them, an interview with the Computer Crime Research Center, Gary Howard Oliva, was arrested last June, he was allegedly carrying a photograph of the child beauty queen. All other trademarks are the property of their respective owners. (Bill McReynolds), He visited adult book stores and admitted to having a long-withstanding admiration for porn. He wrote me a letter saying that he carved JonBenet's name in a harp, it had the name of three other little girls that died early. For many years, JonBents parents and brother, Burke, who was 9-years-old at the time of her death, were considered the main suspects until they were cleared of suspicion. In August 2006, a 41 year old elementary school teacher falsely confessed to the murder of JonBenet but investigations proved him to have no connection with the case. The case "I didn't make the connection as much as I felt that this area should be investigated by the authorities because of the similarities between what I'd seen online [of child pornography] and the child's murder," he explained in .css-tjvzc4{-webkit-text-decoration:none;text-decoration:none;text-decoration-thickness:0.0625rem;text-decoration-color:inherit;text-underline-offset:0.25rem;color:inherit;-webkit-transition:all 0.3s ease-in-out;transition:all 0.3s ease-in-out;border-bottom:thin solid #6F6F6F;}.css-tjvzc4:hover{color:#595959;text-decoration-color:border-link-body-hover;}an interview with the Computer Crime Research Center. "I will never forget we were walking toward his house and he said, 'I wonder what it would be like to crack a human skull.' It is ridiculous! The longer he stayed in the house and the more things he touched, the more danger he would be in. I'm wondering if those fragments could be the same glitter that Crying Santa Bill wanted mixed with his ashes upon his death. You could arguably do this whole thing again if JBR doesn't say anything. Shortly after Ramsey was found dead, investigators pursued a number of suspects, including the 6-year-old's parents, Patricia and John Ramsey but the couple weren't the only suspects on the investigators' radar. Yet, when the case was reopened in 2009, the intruder theory was brought once again as a possible option. Former Kidnapping charge was a botched $113 gas station robbery in Arizona, where he forced clerk to move from Point A to Point B, thus the kidnapping charge (ST Pg 114, DOI pg167), He had come home from the Christmas party at his parents home, had a drink of scotch, swallowed some powerful prescription drugs he took for depression, and gone to bed alone, not awakening until late the next morning. Nope. "In late November, Helgoth had told me that he and a partner were going to make a great deal and they each will bring in around $50,000 or $60,000," he told theDaily Mail. I thought the DNA was unrelated to the murders tho? Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. * Bill McReynolds daughter Jill, was kidnapped on December 26, 1974 with a friend. Now, twenty-five years after the shocking discovering, there are still many unanswered questions about the case as experts and amateurs alike try to uncover what happened that night. The only play the public has been made aware of was Hey Rube which was based on the true story ofSylvia Likens, a young girl who was held captive in an Indiana basement in 1965. I wish we would have done a better job of securing and controlling the crime scene on day one, said Beckner. Olivas high school friend, Michael Vail claimed that Oliva had call him on the phone to confess that he had hurt a little girl. The note read that if the Ramseys had contacted the police, or told anyone of JonBents disappearance, she would be murdered. Both children were then released. However, physical evidence suggested that those details were part of a set-up. He told the Denver Post that when he first met JonBent in 1995 he was struck by her smile, her "pensive, almost retiring" demeanor, and her angelic glow. Think he was old and not a well man .Dont think he did it. You are putting a lot of stock in what may be a throw away line by a 6 year old. JonBent Patricia Ramsey was a six-year-old girl found dead in the basement of her Boulder, Colorado home on December 26, 1996. I hurt a little girl.. She was a member of First Baptist Bluegrass. (Thomas), DeMuth was on the trail of Bill McReynolds, even using undercover cops to tail him. Santa was apparently coming to visit JB. DeMuth confronted Santa Bill, convinced that the cord being used to lash down a tarpaulin was like the cord used in the murder garrote. Red flags everywhere, as far as the eye can see. When did that happen? I felt very close to that little girl. His wife, Janet McReynolds, eventually gave Gosage the cord, and Ron knew instantly that it wasnt the same type used by the killer of JonBent. (BPD Reports #1-1874, #26-144, #1-41, #1-162, #1-204, #1-304, #1-2622, #5-297, #5-371, #5-2202) Could that Secret Santa have been the killer and someone JonBent knew? I thought it was a very odd thing to say.". pic.twitter.com/rspR8gVAdg, Jordan Anderson (@j66anderson) January 18, 2021, Linda Mac and I are so proud of the man that our @mkmcreynolds1 will be spending the rest of her life with! They search the house and find JonBenet murdered. Why not write a confession letter by Patsy and mail it to the police. Helgoth was found dead shortly after JonBent's murder, and his death was ruled a suicide. On the other hand, I know several people who seem like they have an axe to grind. Karr had been living in Thailand, avoiding child pornography charges in the US. McReynolds "had written a card to JonBenet that was found in her trash can after the murder. He gets away with the perfect murder. https://t.co/mbz7yh9Ug3, Larry McReynolds (@LarryMac28) January 18, 2021. She discusses her father's To perhaps no one's surprise, this has been debunked multiple times, and prior to Katy Perry, the theory was that JonBent was actually Lady Gaga. CNN writes: Investigators were intrigued by the fact the McReynolds' daughter had been abducted 22 years before JonBenet's death to the day. Nearly $20K LESS than John's Christmas bonus. ", The daughter: On December 26, 1974, twenty-two years before JonBent was reported kidnapped on December 26, 1996, the nine-year-old daughter of Janet McReynolds, the wife of Bill McReynolds, was kidnapped. This seems really strange and Karr eventually came out as a transgender woman in 2010. I was in my final semester in college at the time and my professor the head of the criminal justice department was absolutely sure the Ramsey did it. Capture a web page as it appears now for use as a trusted citation in the future. Her murder was harder on me than my operation. Like us on Facebook at www.facebook.com/TheSunUS and follow us from our main Twitter account at @TheSunUS, Shock first photos inside Serena Williams' crumbling childhood home, Ana Walshe's pals reveal what 'delayed her fate' after husband charged, Child's body found in search for missing girl, 4, who was 'beaten to death', Missing woman's husband charged with murder after blood found in basement, 2020 THE SUN, US, INC. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED | TERMS OF USE | PRIVACY | YOUR AD CHOICES | SITEMAP, JonBent Ramsey was strangled to death twenty-five years ago and her killer has never been brought to justice, John and Patsy Ramsey were prime suspects for years but were later exonerated when DNA testing had cleared them of any involvement, Investigators could not prove whether or not Patsy wrote the ransom note but she was later cleared by a federal court, Gary Oliva, a sex offender, was found with magazine photos of JonBent in his backpack when police arrested him on drug charges, John Mark Karr falsely confessed to killing JonBent in a 'love game' gone wrong but DNA had cleared him, Many people believe that an intruder killed JonBent but it has never been proven by police. For other inquiries, Contact Us. However, physical evidence suggested that those details were part of a set-up. (It's also speculated that Patsy lashed out after finding that JonBenet had wet the bed.) JonBent Ramsey's 1996 murder case remains unsolved. CBS did not work on the filming of Bill McReynolds. Thankful that God blessed me with such an amazing woman in my life that not only loves the Lord, but challenges me to be a better man. He kept saying it was only a matter of time before they are arrested. Helgoth was tied to The day after Christmas in 1996, the body of 6-year-old beauty pageant queen JonBent Ramsey was found in the basement of her parents Boulder, Colorado home. A federal court ruled that it was unlikely that Patsy wrote the note and cited six certified handwriting experts. His best chance was to work with us, so he became a picture of cooperation. were officially cleared of any involvement in the murder, JonBenet Ramsey's murder, including Bill McReynolds, the man hired by Patsy to play Santa Claus at the Ramsey family's Christmas parties, McReynolds and his wife, Janet, were initially questioned, police sources never considered he or Janet "serious" suspects. She wakes Burke up and the two go downstairs together where they eat pineapple. Stop it already, Yes. Another mother also stated to BPD investigators that JonBent had told a playmate about a Secret Santa. Letting them go was a big mistake, as they soon layered up and did not get to formally interview them again until May of 1997, five months after their daughter was murdered., The case was then passed to the DAs office in 2002 after the Ramseys said they had no confidence in the police.. Thanks for putting that link up. It was his wife. According to Ollie Gray, a private investigator hired by the Ramseys, "Helgothand his accomplices committed the crime. Why would the killer care if Patsy found the note before the body. ", Another popular suspect in the case was Michael Helgoth, whose family owned a junkyard on the outskirts of Boulder (the Ramsey family's then-hometown). Both children were then released. 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